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wow. i rarely watch these types of youtube videos, but i am literally speechless here.
It's hard to explain this video, but basically it's hell & fire message while ripping off the nooma series in presentation. sorry, but its two parts.
apparently if you speak forcibly, you are correct. Also, there's nothing more fun than hearing theological arguments where the person says that you aren't aruging with them, but with the Bible.
here's his other one, it'shard to pick apart these videos because of his circular arguments, and honestly so many things here which make me cringe.
okay with this one, please learn what the word repentance means. Second, how many times do you remember Jesus asking people where they will go when they die? Yeah, i can't find that verse either.
Saturday, July 4, 2009
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I don't think I would mind this guy so much if I didn't think his speach was so rambling on and on. He need to learn to have a point and actually support it.
1. I agree that repentence is more than just saying sorry -- it is acceptence of the Lordship of Christ, but the way this guy is presenting it is coming from the wrong direction. He says he is talking to the church but then accuses them of not being, in effect, the church.
2. I too have a problem with just saying the sinner's prayer salvations. Relationship covenant with Christ requires more than this but could you make that point and move on.
Questions:
1. Exactly how does God get glory from seeing people roasting in hell? Where does the Bible say this?
2. Is this the way Jesus evangelized? Don't think so. Jesus used the Law to bring people to his grace and his thoughts on hell and damnation are indeed severe, but he never uses hell as an evangelism point. Only to make points agaisnt the self righteous (Luke 16)
Blessings
well he scares the shit out of me and im a youth ministers wife.
Ed- thanks for the comment. I don't think he had a point either, besides the fact that God is angry and that we are ready to burn. His substitutionary understandings are just so heavy and misguided to me. Apparently, Jesus is the whipping boy for our sins, and repentance is a plea not to burn in hell.
I tend to see repentance as more of what we do after we've learned the Gospel. Hence "metanoia" (Greek), as "after knowledge".
Yeah, I don't understand God getting glory for people burning in hell for eternity. That is a severely sickening thought. I also wish he would learn the imagery of the book of Revelation, and that it wasn't written to fit into later theologies, but perhaps came from a a particular context and is embedded in Jewish apocalytpic imagery and thought.
And on your final point, I don't see Jesus evangelizing like that either. He didn't pass out Torah snippets, and say read this or burn in hell. He loved people, he was moved by his friends, he embraced the drunks and tax collectors, and he was angry when those in power, especially religious power, oppressed the "little people."
I've never once read Jesus say, "If you died tonight, where would you go?"
Jennifer- I completely understand. I never look at stuff like that, but i saw it and was just simply disgusted.
Fortunately, it costs too much in SA for us to bother paying for the data it would take to view this apparent garbage.
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